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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Protected &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/God%27s_Love_and_God%27s_Wrath&quot; title=&quot;God&amp;#039;s Love and God&amp;#039;s Wrath&quot;&gt;God&amp;#39;s Love and God&amp;#39;s Wrath&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; ([edit=sysop] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite))&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>JoyaTeemer at 21:22, 9 June 2010</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;one's heart, soul, mind, and strength. For this, there is no remedy&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;one's heart, soul, mind, and strength. For this, there is no remedy&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;#39;{{info}}  Many think it is easy for God to forgive. I recall meeting a young and articulate French West African when I was studying in Germany more than twenty years ago. We were...&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;
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Many think it is easy for God to forgive. I recall meeting&lt;br /&gt;
a young and articulate French West African when I was&lt;br /&gt;
studying in Germany more than twenty years ago. We were both&lt;br /&gt;
working diligently to improve our German, but once a week or so&lt;br /&gt;
we had had enough, so we went out for a meal together and retreated to French, a language we both knew well. In the course of&lt;br /&gt;
those meals we got to know each other. I learned that his wife was&lt;br /&gt;
in London, training to be a medical doctor. He himself was an&lt;br /&gt;
engineer who needed fluency in German in order to pursue doctoral&lt;br /&gt;
studies in engineering in Germany.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I soon discovered that once or twice a week he disappeared&lt;br /&gt;
into the red-light district of town. Obviously he went to pay his&lt;br /&gt;
money and have his woman. Eventually I got to know him well&lt;br /&gt;
enough that I asked him what he would do if he discovered that his&lt;br /&gt;
wife was doing something similar in London.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Oh,&amp;quot; he said, &amp;quot;I'd kill her.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;That's a bit of a double standard, isn't it?&amp;quot; I asked.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;You don't understand. Where I come from in Africa, the&lt;br /&gt;
husband has the right to sleep with many women, but if a wife is&lt;br /&gt;
unfaithful to her husband she must be killed.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;But you told me that you were raised in a mission school&lt;br /&gt;
You know that the God of the Bible does not have double standards&lt;br /&gt;
like that .&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He gave me a bright smile, and replied, &amp;quot;Ah, le bon Dieu, il&lt;br /&gt;
doit nous pardonner; c'est son métier [Ah, God is good, He's bound&lt;br /&gt;
to forgive us; that's His job].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It is a common view, is it not? I do not know if my African&lt;br /&gt;
friend knew that the same words are ascribed to Catherine the&lt;br /&gt;
Great; he may have been consciously quoting her, for he was well&lt;br /&gt;
read. But even when people do not put things quite so bluntly, the&lt;br /&gt;
idea is popular, not least because some ill-defined notions of the&lt;br /&gt;
love of God run abroad in the land. But they have been sadly sent&lt;br /&gt;
imentalized and horribly stripped of all the complementary&lt;br /&gt;
things the Bible has to say.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This address reflects on a few of these other things, with the&lt;br /&gt;
aim of thinking more precisely and faithfully about the love of&lt;br /&gt;
God.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====The Love of God and the Wrath of God====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible speaks of the wrath of God in high-intensity language.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The LORD Almighty is mustering an army for war. . . . Wail,&lt;br /&gt;
for the day of the LORD is near; it will come like destruction from&lt;br /&gt;
the Almighty. . . . See, the day of the LORD is coming—a cruel day,&lt;br /&gt;
with wrath and fierce anger—to make the land desolate and destroy&lt;br /&gt;
the sinners within it&amp;quot; (Isa. 13:4, 6, 9).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;All Scripture quotations are from the New International Version unless noted otherwise.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Even allowing for the&lt;br /&gt;
unusual nature of language in the apocalyptic genre, Revelation&lt;br /&gt;
14 includes some of the most violent expressions of God's wrath&lt;br /&gt;
found in all literature.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wrath, like love, includes emotion as a necessary component. Here again, if impassibility is defined in terms of the complete&lt;br /&gt;
absence of all &amp;quot;passions,&amp;quot; not only will you fly in the face of&lt;br /&gt;
biblical evidence, but you will tumble into fresh errors that touch&lt;br /&gt;
the very holiness of God. The reason is that in itself, wrath, unlike&lt;br /&gt;
love, is not one of the intrinsic perfections of God. Rather, it&lt;br /&gt;
is a function of God's holiness against sin. Where there is no sin,&lt;br /&gt;
there is no wrath, but there will always be love in God. Where God&lt;br /&gt;
in His holiness confronts His image-bearers in their rebellion,&lt;br /&gt;
there must be wrath. Otherwise God is not the jealous God He&lt;br /&gt;
claims to be, and His holiness is impugned. The price of diluting&lt;br /&gt;
God's wrath is diminishing God's holiness.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While the wrath of God is a function of God's holiness&lt;br /&gt;
against sin, it nevertheless has a powerful affective element. To&lt;br /&gt;
distance God too greatly from wrath on the ground of a&lt;br /&gt;
misconceived form of impassibility soon casts shadows back onto&lt;br /&gt;
His holiness. Alternatively this so-called &amp;quot;wrath,&amp;quot; depersonalized&lt;br /&gt;
and de-emotionalized, is redefined as an anthropopathism&lt;br /&gt;
that is actually talking about the impartial and inevitable effects&lt;br /&gt;
of sin in a person or culture. That was the view of C. H. Dodd in&lt;br /&gt;
the 1930s. The entailment, then as now, is that the significance of&lt;br /&gt;
the Cross changes. If God is not really angry, it is difficult to see&lt;br /&gt;
the need for propitiation.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Further, to retreat to the distinction between the immanent&lt;br /&gt;
Trinity and the economic Trinity in this case would be disastrous. That tactic argues that God as He is in Himself (the&lt;br /&gt;
immanent Trinity) is immune from wrath, while God as He&lt;br /&gt;
interacts with rebels (the economic Trinity) displays His wrath.&lt;br /&gt;
But this leaves us in the dubious position of ascribing to God as He&lt;br /&gt;
is in Himself less concern for maintaining His holiness than&lt;br /&gt;
God as He interacts with the created and fallen order.&lt;br /&gt;
Conceptually this is a substantial distance from the picture of God&lt;br /&gt;
in Scripture; analytically it is slightly bizarre.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How, then, do God's love and His wrath relate to each other?&lt;br /&gt;
One evangelical cliché has it that God hates the sin but loves the&lt;br /&gt;
sinner. There is a small element of t rut h in these words: God has&lt;br /&gt;
nothing but hate for the sin, but this cannot be said with respect to&lt;br /&gt;
how God sees the sinner. Nevertheless the cliché is false on the&lt;br /&gt;
face of it, and should be abandoned. Fourteen times in the first&lt;br /&gt;
fifty psalms alone, the psalmists state that God hates the sinner,&lt;br /&gt;
that His wrath is on the liar, and so forth. In the Bible the wrath of&lt;br /&gt;
God rests on both the sin (Rom. 1:18-23) and the sinner (1:24-32;&lt;br /&gt;
2:5; John 3:36).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Our problem in part is that in human experience wrath and&lt;br /&gt;
love normally abide in mutually exclusive compartments. Love&lt;br /&gt;
drives wrath out, or wrath drives love out. We come closest to&lt;br /&gt;
bringing them together, perhaps, in our responses to a wayward&lt;br /&gt;
act by one of our children, but normally we do not think that a&lt;br /&gt;
wrathful person is loving.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But this is not the way it is with God. God's wrath is not an&lt;br /&gt;
implacable blind rage. However emotional it may be, it is an entirely&lt;br /&gt;
reasonable and willed response to offenses against His holiness.&lt;br /&gt;
At the same time His love wells up amidst His perfections&lt;br /&gt;
and is not generated by the loveliness of the loved. Thus there is&lt;br /&gt;
nothing intrinsically impossible about wrath and love being&lt;br /&gt;
directed toward the same individual or people at once. God in His&lt;br /&gt;
perfections must be wrathful against His rebel image-bearers, for&lt;br /&gt;
they have offended Him; God in His perfections must be loving&lt;br /&gt;
toward His rebel image-bearers, for He is that kind of God.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Two other misconceptions circulate widely even in circles of&lt;br /&gt;
confessional Christianity. The first is that in the Old Testament&lt;br /&gt;
God's wrath is more strikingly transparent than His love, while&lt;br /&gt;
in the New Testament, though doubtless a residue of wrath remains,&lt;br /&gt;
a gentleness takes over and softens the darker period: God's love is now richer than His wrath. After all, Jesus taught&lt;br /&gt;
His disciples to love their enemies and turn the other cheek (Matt.&lt;br /&gt;
5:39, 41).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Nothing could be further from the truth than this reading of&lt;br /&gt;
the relationship between the Testaments. One suspects that the&lt;br /&gt;
reason this formula has any credibility at all is that the manifestation of God's wrath in the Old Testament is primarily in temporal&lt;br /&gt;
categories: famine, plague, siege, war, slaughter. In the here&lt;br /&gt;
and now those images have a greater impact than what the New&lt;br /&gt;
Testament says, with its focus on wrath in the afterlife. Jesus,&lt;br /&gt;
after all, is the One who in the New Testament speaks most frequently and most colorfully about hell, this Jesus of the other&lt;br /&gt;
cheek. The apostolic writings offer little support for the view that a&lt;br /&gt;
kinder, gentler God surfaces in the New Testament at this stage&lt;br /&gt;
in redemptive history.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The reality is that the Old Testament displays the grace and&lt;br /&gt;
love of God in experience and types, and these realities become all&lt;br /&gt;
the clearer in the New Testament . Similarly, the Old Testament&lt;br /&gt;
displays the righteous wrath of God in experience and types, and&lt;br /&gt;
these realities become all the clearer in the New Testament. In&lt;br /&gt;
other words both God's love and God's wrath are ratcheted up in&lt;br /&gt;
the move from the Old Testament to the New. These themes barrel&lt;br /&gt;
along through redemptive history, unresolved, until they come to&lt;br /&gt;
a resounding climax in the Cross. Do you wish to see God's love?&lt;br /&gt;
Look at the Cross. Do you wish to see God's wrath? Look at the&lt;br /&gt;
Cross.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hymn writers have sometimes captured this best. In Wales,&lt;br /&gt;
Christians sing a nineteenth-century hymn by William Rees:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Here is love, vast as the ocean,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Lovingkindness as the flood,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When the Prince of life, our ransom,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Shed for us His precious blood.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Who His love will not remember?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Who can cease to sing His praise?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
He can never be forgotten&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Throughout heaven's eternal days.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On the Mount of Crucifixion&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Fountains opened deep and wide;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Through the floodgates of God's mercy&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Flowed a vast and gracious tide.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Grace and love, like mighty rivers,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Poured incessant from above,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
And heaven's peace and perfect justice&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Kissed a guilty world in love.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A second common misconception pictures God as implacably&lt;br /&gt;
opposed to us and full of wrath but somehow mollified by Jesus,&lt;br /&gt;
who loves us. Again, there is some wonderful truth here. The&lt;br /&gt;
Epistle to the Hebrews certainly lends some support to this way of&lt;br /&gt;
thinking, especially in its portrayal of Jesus as the High Priest,&lt;br /&gt;
who continuously makes intercession to God for us (Heb. 7:25).&lt;br /&gt;
All this is modeled on the Levitical worship established at Sinai.&lt;br /&gt;
Or more precisely the system established at Sinai was meant to&lt;br /&gt;
be, according to Hebrews, the shadow of the ultimate reality. Jesus&lt;br /&gt;
is the Advocate who speaks to the Father in the believers' defense&lt;br /&gt;
(1 John 2:1).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But other strands of New Testament theology must be brought&lt;br /&gt;
to bear on this subject. God loved the world so much that He gave&lt;br /&gt;
His Son (John 3:16). This does not mean that God was reluctant&lt;br /&gt;
while His Son won Him over; rather, God Himself willingly sent&lt;br /&gt;
His Son. Even though Jesus as the believers' great High Priest&lt;br /&gt;
intercedes for us and pleads His own blood on our behalf, this is&lt;br /&gt;
not an independent action the Father somehow did not know&lt;br /&gt;
about, or reluctantly approved, being eventually won over by the&lt;br /&gt;
independently originating sacrifice of His Son. Rather, Father&lt;br /&gt;
and Son are one in this project of redemption. The Son Himself&lt;br /&gt;
came into the world by the express command of the Father.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thus propitiation does not mean the Son, full of love, offered&lt;br /&gt;
Himself and thereby placated (i.e., rendered propitious) the Father,&lt;br /&gt;
who was full of wrath. The picture is more complex. The&lt;br /&gt;
Father, full of righteous wrath against sin and sinners, nevertheless&lt;br /&gt;
loved us so much that He sent His Son. Perfectly&lt;br /&gt;
mirroring His Father's words and deeds, the Son stood over&lt;br /&gt;
against us in wrath (displayed vividly when sinners will call for&lt;br /&gt;
rocks to fall and hide them &amp;quot;from the wrath of the Lamb,&amp;quot; Rev.&lt;br /&gt;
6:16), and yet He was obedient to His Father's commission,&lt;br /&gt;
offering Himself on the cross. He did this out of love both for His&lt;br /&gt;
Father, whom He obeys, and for us, whom He redeems. Thus God&lt;br /&gt;
is necessarily both the subject and the object of propitiation. He&lt;br /&gt;
provides the propitiating sacrifice (He is the subject), and He&lt;br /&gt;
Himself is propitiated (He is the object). That is the glory of the&lt;br /&gt;
Cross.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All this is implicit in Romans 3:21-26, a great atonement&lt;br /&gt;
passage. After devoting two and a half chapters to showing how&lt;br /&gt;
the entire human race is cursed and is rightly under the wrath of&lt;br /&gt;
God because of its sin (1:18-3:20), the apostle Paul demonstrates&lt;br /&gt;
how Christ's death was God's wise plan &amp;quot;to demonstrate his justice&lt;br /&gt;
at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies&lt;br /&gt;
those who have faith in Jesus&amp;quot; (3:26). God presented Jesus as a&lt;br /&gt;
propitiation in His blood, received through faith (3:25).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====The Love of God and the Intent of the Atonement==== &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How does the love of God shed light on the purpose of the Atonement, another area related to the sovereignty of God?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The label &amp;quot;limited Atonement&amp;quot; is singularly unfortunate for&lt;br /&gt;
two reasons. First, it is a defensive, restrictive, expression: Here&lt;br /&gt;
is Atonement, and then someone wants to limit it. The notion of&lt;br /&gt;
limiting something as glorious as the Atonement is intrinsically&lt;br /&gt;
offensive. Second, even when inspected more coolly, &amp;quot;limited&lt;br /&gt;
Atonement&amp;quot; is objectively misleading. Every view of the Atonement&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;limits&amp;quot; it in some way, except for the view of the unqualified&lt;br /&gt;
universalist. For example Arminians limit the Atonement&lt;br /&gt;
by regarding it as merely potential for everyone. Calvinists regard&lt;br /&gt;
the Atonement as definite and effective, that is, those for&lt;br /&gt;
whom Christ died will certainly be saved, but they limit this effectiveness to the elect. Amyraldians limit the Atonement in much&lt;br /&gt;
the same way as Arminians, even though the undergirding&lt;br /&gt;
structures are different. It may be less prejudicial therefore to&lt;br /&gt;
distinguish general Atonement and definite Atonement, rather&lt;br /&gt;
than unlimited Atonement and limited Atonement. Arminians&lt;br /&gt;
(and Amyraldians, who may be lumped together for the sake of&lt;br /&gt;
this discussion) hold that the Atonement is general, that is, sufficient&lt;br /&gt;
for all, available to all, on condition of faith. Calvinists&lt;br /&gt;
hold that the Atonement is definite, that is, intended by God to be&lt;br /&gt;
effective for the elect.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At least part of the argument in favor of definite Atonement&lt;br /&gt;
runs as follows. Let us grant, for the sake of argument, the truth of&lt;br /&gt;
election.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;If someone denies unconditional election, as an informed Arminian (but not an Amyraldian) would, most Calvinists would want to start further back.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That is one point where this discussion intersects with&lt;br /&gt;
what was stated about God's sovereignty and electing love in the&lt;br /&gt;
third lecture in this series. Election granted, the question may be&lt;br /&gt;
framed in this way: When God sent His Son to die, did He think&lt;br /&gt;
of the effect of the Cross with respect to His elect differently from&lt;br /&gt;
the way He thought of the effect of the Cross with respect to all&lt;br /&gt;
others? If one answers negatively, it is difficult to see that one is&lt;br /&gt;
really holding to a doctrine of election at all; if one answers positively,&lt;br /&gt;
then one has veered toward some notion of definite Atonement. The definiteness of the Atonement turns rather more on&lt;br /&gt;
God's intent in Christ's work on the cross than on the mere extent&lt;br /&gt;
of its significance.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Those who defend definite Atonement cite several verses for&lt;br /&gt;
support. Jesus will save His people (not everyone) from their sins&lt;br /&gt;
(Matt. 1:21). Christ gave Himself &amp;quot;for us,&amp;quot; that is, for the people of&lt;br /&gt;
the New Covenant &amp;quot;to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify&lt;br /&gt;
for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is&lt;br /&gt;
good&amp;quot; (Titus 2:14). Moreover, in His death Christ did not merely&lt;br /&gt;
make adequate provision for the elect; He actually achieved the&lt;br /&gt;
desired result (Rom. 5:6-10; Eph. 2:15-16). The Son of Man came&lt;br /&gt;
to give His life a ransom &amp;quot;for many&amp;quot; (Matt. 20:28; Mark 10:45; cf.&lt;br /&gt;
Isa. 53:10-12). Christ &amp;quot;loved the church and gave himself up for&lt;br /&gt;
her&amp;quot; (Eph. 5:25).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Others, however, respond that there are simply too many texts&lt;br /&gt;
on the other side of the issue. &amp;quot;God so loved the world that He gave&lt;br /&gt;
His one and only Son&amp;quot; (John 3:16). Clever exegetical devices that&lt;br /&gt;
make &amp;quot;the world&amp;quot; a label referring to the elect ar e not very&lt;br /&gt;
convincing. Christ Jesus is the propitiation &amp;quot;for our sins, and not&lt;br /&gt;
only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world&amp;quot; (1 John 2:2).&lt;br /&gt;
The arguments marshaled on both sides are of course more&lt;br /&gt;
numerous and more sophisticated than indicated in this thumbnail&lt;br /&gt;
sketch. But recall for a moment the outline given in the first&lt;br /&gt;
address on the various ways the Bible speaks about the love of&lt;br /&gt;
God: (1) God's intra-Trinitarian love, (2) God's love displayed in&lt;br /&gt;
His providential care, (3) God's yearning, warning and&lt;br /&gt;
invitation to all human beings as He invites and commands&lt;br /&gt;
them to repent and believe, (4) God's special love toward the elect,&lt;br /&gt;
and (5) God's conditional love toward His covenant people as He&lt;br /&gt;
speaks in the language of discipline. If any one of these is&lt;br /&gt;
absolutized, a false system is generated that squeezes out other&lt;br /&gt;
important things the Bible says, thus distorting one's vision of&lt;br /&gt;
God.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In this case, if we adopt the fourth of these ways of talking&lt;br /&gt;
about God's love (viz., God's peculiar and effective love toward the&lt;br /&gt;
elect) and insist that this is the only way the Bible speaks of the&lt;br /&gt;
love of God, then definite Atonement is exonerated. But this is at&lt;br /&gt;
the cost of other verses that do not easily fit into this mold, and it is&lt;br /&gt;
at the expense of being unable to say that there is any sense in&lt;br /&gt;
which God displays a loving, yearning, salvific stance toward&lt;br /&gt;
the whole world. Further, there could then be no sense in which the&lt;br /&gt;
Atonement is sufficient for all without exception. Alternatively,&lt;br /&gt;
if we put all our theological eggs into the third basket and think of&lt;br /&gt;
God's love exclusively in terms of open invitation to all human&lt;br /&gt;
beings, we have excluded not only definite Atonement as a theological&lt;br /&gt;
construct but also a string of passages which, when read&lt;br /&gt;
most naturally, mean that Jesus Christ did die, in some special&lt;br /&gt;
way, for His own people, and that God, with perfect knowledge of&lt;br /&gt;
the elect, saw Christ's death with respect to the elect differently&lt;br /&gt;
from the way He saw Christ's death with respect to everyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Surely it is best not to introduce disjunctions where God Himself has not introduced them If one holds that the Atonement is&lt;br /&gt;
sufficient for all and effective for the elect, then both sets of texts&lt;br /&gt;
and concerns are accommodated A verse such as 1 John 2:2&lt;br /&gt;
states something about the potential breadth of the Atonement The&lt;br /&gt;
proto-Gnostic opponents John was facing thought of themselves as&lt;br /&gt;
an elite group who enjoyed an inside track with God because of the&lt;br /&gt;
special insights they had received.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;At some length I have defended this as the background of 1 John 2:2 in my commentary on 1 John in the New International Greek Testament Commentary series (Grand Rapids Eerdmans, forthcoming)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But when Jesus Christ died,&lt;br /&gt;
John rejoins, it was not for the sake of, say, the Jews only, or now&lt;br /&gt;
of some group, Gnostic or otherwise, that sets itself up as the elite&lt;br /&gt;
of the elect. Far from it, John says: It was not for our sins only, but&lt;br /&gt;
also for the sins of the whole world. The context then understands&lt;br /&gt;
this to mean something like &amp;quot;potentially for all without&lt;br /&gt;
distinction&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;effectively for all without exception&amp;quot;—&lt;br /&gt;
for the latter would mean that all without exception must surely be&lt;br /&gt;
saved, and John did not teach that that would take place. This is&lt;br /&gt;
in line, then, with passages that speak of God's love in the third&lt;br /&gt;
sense listed above. But it is difficult to see why that should rule out&lt;br /&gt;
the fourth sense in other passages.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent years I have tried to read both primary and secondary&lt;br /&gt;
sources on the doctrine of the Atonement from Calvin on.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;One of the latest treatments is G. Michael Thomas, The Extent of the Atonement: A Dilemma for Reformed Theology from Calvin to the Consensus (1536- 1675), ''Paternoster Biblical and Theological Monographs'' (Carlisle, UK Paternoster, 1997)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
One of my most forceful impressions is that the categories of the&lt;br /&gt;
debate gradually shift with time so as to force disjunction where a&lt;br /&gt;
slightly different bit of question-framing would allow synthesis.&lt;br /&gt;
Correcting this, I suggest, is one of the useful things we may accomplish&lt;br /&gt;
from an adequate study of the love of God presented in&lt;br /&gt;
Scripture. For God is a person. Surely it is not surprising that the&lt;br /&gt;
love that characterizes Him as a person is manifest in a variety&lt;br /&gt;
of ways toward other persons. But it is always love. Both Arminians&lt;br /&gt;
and Calvinists should rightly affirm that Christ died for all,&lt;br /&gt;
in the sense that Christ 's death was sufficient for all and that&lt;br /&gt;
Scripture portrays God as inviting, commanding, and desiring&lt;br /&gt;
the salvation of all, out of love (in the third sense developed in the&lt;br /&gt;
first lecture). Further, all Christians ought also to confess that in&lt;br /&gt;
a slightly different sense Christ Jesus, in the intent of God, died&lt;br /&gt;
effectively for the elect alone, in line with the way the Bible&lt;br /&gt;
speaks of God's special selecting love for the elect (in the fourth&lt;br /&gt;
sense developed in the first lecture).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Pastorally, there are many important implications. I mention&lt;br /&gt;
only one. This approach, I contend, must surely come as a relief&lt;br /&gt;
to young preachers in the Reformed tradition who hunger to&lt;br /&gt;
preach the gospel effectively but who do not know how far they can&lt;br /&gt;
go in saying to unbelievers things like &amp;quot;God loves you.&amp;quot; When I&lt;br /&gt;
have preached or lectured in Reformed circles, I have often been&lt;br /&gt;
asked the question, &amp;quot;Do you feel free to tell unbelievers that God&lt;br /&gt;
loves them?&amp;quot; Historically, Reformed theology at its best has never&lt;br /&gt;
been slow in evangelism, as seen, for instance, in George Whitefield&lt;br /&gt;
or virtually all the main lights in the Southern Baptist Convention&lt;br /&gt;
until the end of the last century. Obviously I have no hesitation in answering this question from Reformed preachers&lt;br /&gt;
affirmatively: of course, I tell the unconverted God loves them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not for a moment am I suggesting that when one preaches&lt;br /&gt;
evangelistically one ought to retreat to passages of the third type&lt;br /&gt;
(above), holding back on the fourth type until after a person is&lt;br /&gt;
converted. There is something sleazy about that sort of approach.&lt;br /&gt;
Certainly it is possible to preach evangelistically when dealing&lt;br /&gt;
with a passage that explicitly teaches election. Charles Spurgeon&lt;br /&gt;
did this sort of thing regularly. But I am saying that, provided&lt;br /&gt;
there is an honest commitment to preaching the whole counsel of&lt;br /&gt;
God, preachers in the Reformed tradition should not hesitate for&lt;br /&gt;
an instant to declare the love of God for a lost world, for lost individuals.&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible's ways of speaking about the love of God are&lt;br /&gt;
comprehensive enough not only to permit this, but to mandate it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Somewhat similar reflections are given by Hywel R. Jones, &amp;quot;Is God Love?&amp;quot; ''Banner of Truth Magazine'', January 1998, 10-16.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====The Love of God for the World====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the striking formal dissonances in the Johannine corpus&lt;br /&gt;
is the clash between the Gospel's assertion of the love of God for the&lt;br /&gt;
world (John 3:16) and the first epistle's prohibition of love for the&lt;br /&gt;
world (1 John 2:15-17). In brief, God loves the world, and Christians had better not. The impression is rather strong that if people&lt;br /&gt;
love the world, they remain under God's wrath: the love of the&lt;br /&gt;
Father is not in them. The dissonance, of course, is merely formal. There is a ready explanation. But this formal dissonance&lt;br /&gt;
reminds us yet again that the ways the Bible speaks of something&lt;br /&gt;
are diverse and contextually controlled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
God's love for the world is commendable because it manifests&lt;br /&gt;
itself in awesome self-sacrifice; our love for the world is repulsive&lt;br /&gt;
when it lusts for evil participation. God's love for the world is&lt;br /&gt;
praiseworthy because it brings the transforming gospel to it; our&lt;br /&gt;
love for the world is ugly because we seek to be conformed to the&lt;br /&gt;
world. God's love for the world issues in certain individuals being&lt;br /&gt;
called out from the world and into the fellowship of Christ's&lt;br /&gt;
followers; our love for the world is sickening where we wish to be&lt;br /&gt;
absorbed into the world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So &amp;quot;do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone&lt;br /&gt;
loves the world, the love of the Father [whether this love is understood&lt;br /&gt;
in the subjective or the objective sense] is not in him&amp;quot; (1 John&lt;br /&gt;
2:15). But clearly believers are to love the world in the sense that&lt;br /&gt;
we are to go into every part of it and bring the glorious gospel to&lt;br /&gt;
every creature. In this sense we imitate in small ways the wholly&lt;br /&gt;
praiseworthy love of God for the world.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====The Love of God and the People of God====&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I conclude with three reflections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First, the love of God for His people is sometimes likened to&lt;br /&gt;
the love of a parent for the child (e.g., Heb. 12:4-11; cf. Prov.&lt;br /&gt;
14:26). The Lord disciplines those He loves (the fifth category of&lt;br /&gt;
God's love). These lectures have addressed that category less than&lt;br /&gt;
the other four. But believers must never forget to keep themselves&lt;br /&gt;
in the love of God (Jude 21), remembering that He is loving and&lt;br /&gt;
merciful to those who love Him and who keep His commandments (Exod. 20:6). In this way we imitate Jesus. As Jesus&lt;br /&gt;
obeys His heavenly Father and remains in His love, so we are to&lt;br /&gt;
obey Jesus and to remain in His love (John 15:9-11).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Second, the love of God is not merely to be analyzed, understood,&lt;br /&gt;
and adopted into wholistic categories of integrated theological&lt;br /&gt;
thought. It is to be received, absorbed, felt. Paul's prayer in&lt;br /&gt;
Ephesians 3:14-21 connects such Christian experience of the love&lt;br /&gt;
of God with Christian maturity, with being &amp;quot;filled to the measure&lt;br /&gt;
of all the fullness of God&amp;quot; (v. 19). Clearly no one can be a mature&lt;br /&gt;
Christian who does not walk in this path.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;I have dealt with this subject at much greater length in ''A Call to Spiritual Reformation: Priorities from Paul and His Prayers'' (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1992)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Third, Christians should never underestimate the power of&lt;br /&gt;
the love of God to break down and transform the most amazingly&lt;br /&gt;
hard individuals. One of the most powerful recent affirmations&lt;br /&gt;
of this truth in a context far removed from our church buildings is&lt;br /&gt;
the worldwide showings of the musical version of Victor Hugo's&lt;br /&gt;
magnificent novel ''Les Misérables''. Sentenced to a nineteen-year&lt;br /&gt;
term of hard labor for stealing bread, Jean Valjean becomes hard&lt;br /&gt;
and bitter. No one can break him; everyone fears him. Released&lt;br /&gt;
from prison, Valjean finds it difficult to survive, as innkeepers&lt;br /&gt;
will not welcome him and work is scarce. Then a kind bishop&lt;br /&gt;
welcomes him into his home. But Valjean betrays the trust.&lt;br /&gt;
During the night he creeps off into the darkness, stealing some of&lt;br /&gt;
the family silver.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Valjean is brought back next morning to the bishop's door by&lt;br /&gt;
three policemen. They had arrested him and found the stolen&lt;br /&gt;
silver on him. A word from the bishop and the wretch would be incarcerated&lt;br /&gt;
for life. But the bishop instantly exclaims, &amp;quot;So here&lt;br /&gt;
you are! I'm delighted to see you. Had you forgotten that I gave you&lt;br /&gt;
the candlesticks as well? They're silver like the rest, and worth a&lt;br /&gt;
good two hundred francs. Did you forget to take them?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jean Valjean is released, and he is transformed. When the&lt;br /&gt;
gendarmes withdraw, the bishop insists on giving the candlesticks&lt;br /&gt;
to his speechless, mortified, thankful guest. &amp;quot;Do not forget,&lt;br /&gt;
do not ever forget, that you have promised me to use the money to&lt;br /&gt;
make yourself an honest man, &amp;quot; admonishes the bishop. And&lt;br /&gt;
meanwhile Javert, the detective who is constantly pursuing&lt;br /&gt;
Valjean and who is consumed by justice but who knows nothing&lt;br /&gt;
of forgiveness or compassion, crumbles when his black-and-white categories of mere justice fail to cope with grace that goes&lt;br /&gt;
against every instinct for revenge. Valjean is transformed;&lt;br /&gt;
Javert jumps off a bridge and drowns in the Seine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Of course this is Christian love, that is, the love of God, mediated&lt;br /&gt;
in this case through a bishop. This is how it should be, for&lt;br /&gt;
God's love so transforms us, that we mediate it to others, who are&lt;br /&gt;
thereby transformed. We love because He first loved us; we forgive&lt;br /&gt;
because we stand forgiven.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One of the faces of love I have virtually ignored in this series&lt;br /&gt;
is our love. My focus has been on the love of God and the various&lt;br /&gt;
ways the Bible speaks of that love. Yet sooner or later one cannot&lt;br /&gt;
adequately grasp the love of God in Scripture without reflecting on&lt;br /&gt;
the ways in which God's love elicits our love. The five categories&lt;br /&gt;
developed in the first lecture also relate to believers' love.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1) God's intra-Trinitarian love ensures the plan of&lt;br /&gt;
redemption. The Father so loves the Son that He has decreed that&lt;br /&gt;
all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father, and to that&lt;br /&gt;
end He &amp;quot;shows&amp;quot; the Son things, gives Him tasks, including the&lt;br /&gt;
supreme task of the Cross. And the Son so loves the Father that out&lt;br /&gt;
of obedience He went to the cross on our behalf, the Just for the&lt;br /&gt;
unjust. The entire plan of redemption that has turned our hearts&lt;br /&gt;
toward God is a function, in the first place, of this intra-Trinitarian love of God.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(2) God's providential love protects us, feeds us, clothes us,&lt;br /&gt;
and forbears to destroy us when mere justice could rightly write&lt;br /&gt;
us off. The Lord Jesus insists that the evidences of God's providential love call us to faith and God-centered kingdom priorities&lt;br /&gt;
(Matt. 6:25-34).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(3) God's yearning, inviting, commanding love, supremely&lt;br /&gt;
displayed in the Cross, &amp;quot;compels us, because we are convinced&lt;br /&gt;
that one died for all, and therefore all died. And he died for all,&lt;br /&gt;
that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for&lt;br /&gt;
him who died for them and was raised again&amp;quot; (2 Cor. 5:14-15).&lt;br /&gt;
With Paul, we are debtors; we owe others the gospel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(4) God's effective, electing love toward us enables us to see&lt;br /&gt;
the sheer glory and power of Christ's vicarious death on our behalf,&lt;br /&gt;
by which we are reconciled to God. We grasp that God has&lt;br /&gt;
not drawn us with the savage lust of a rapist, but with the compelling&lt;br /&gt;
wooing of a lover. Out of sheer love, God has effectively&lt;br /&gt;
secured the salvation of His people. We love, because He first&lt;br /&gt;
loved us.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(5) God continues to love us, not only with the immutable love&lt;br /&gt;
that ensures we are more than conquerors through Christ who&lt;br /&gt;
loved us (Rom. 8:37), but also with love like that of a father for his&lt;br /&gt;
children, telling them to remain in His love (Jude 21). Thus we&lt;br /&gt;
are disciplined in love that we might be loving and obedient children&lt;br /&gt;
of the living God.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All this has transformed us, so that we in turn perceive the&lt;br /&gt;
sheer Tightness of the first commandment: to love God with all of&lt;br /&gt;
one's heart, soul, mind, and strength (Deut. 6:5; Matt. 22:37;&lt;br /&gt;
Mark 12:30; Luke 10:27). As that is the first and greatest&lt;br /&gt;
commandment, so the first and greatest sin is not to love God with&lt;br /&gt;
one's heart, soul, mind, and strength. For this, there is no remedy&lt;br /&gt;
except what God Himself has provided—in love.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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